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	<description>The Politics of Identity on the Edge</description>
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		<title>Comment on Trans queerspawn and transpawn &#8211; Finding connections by Mattimeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattimeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a straight couple has a gay child, they know at heart that they didn&#039;t &quot;do anything to the little darling&quot; - the little darling just happened to be gay. And you just happen to be trans.  And I bet your parents feel just as much like elephants who hatched out a bird&#039;s egg as their parents did about them. All the very best to you in an indefinable world.  You are one more chaotic and profound cause for celebration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a straight couple has a gay child, they know at heart that they didn&#8217;t &#8220;do anything to the little darling&#8221; &#8211; the little darling just happened to be gay. And you just happen to be trans.  And I bet your parents feel just as much like elephants who hatched out a bird&#8217;s egg as their parents did about them. All the very best to you in an indefinable world.  You are one more chaotic and profound cause for celebration.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Transmisogyny Looks Like by Ask a Tranny Podcast</title>
		<link>http://nodesignation.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/what-transmisogyny-looks-like/#comment-1629</link>
		<dc:creator>Ask a Tranny Podcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;What&#039;s In a Name?...&lt;/strong&gt;

Tobi Hill-Meyer says on her blog, &quot;When trans women are told that they are politically ignorant when they object to trans men &#039;reclaiming&#039; a derogatory term that has been used specifically against trans women and not against trans men, thats transm...</description>
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<p>Tobi Hill-Meyer says on her blog, &#8220;When trans women are told that they are politically ignorant when they object to trans men &#8216;reclaiming&#8217; a derogatory term that has been used specifically against trans women and not against trans men, thats transm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is &#8216;Tranny&#8217; Offensive? by vicki</title>
		<link>http://nodesignation.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/is-tranny-offensive/#comment-1628</link>
		<dc:creator>vicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still wonder what tranny in the work place means</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still wonder what tranny in the work place means</p>
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		<title>Comment on Margaret Cho is a chaser?  Tranny chasers in dyke communities by Gay Hunk Videos &#187; Margaret Cho is a chaser? Tranny chasers in dyke communities « No &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gay Hunk Videos &#187; Margaret Cho is a chaser? Tranny chasers in dyke communities « No &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Margaret Cho is a chaser?  Tranny chasers in dyke communities by Boy College Straight &#187; Margaret Cho is a chaser? Tranny chasers in dyke communities « No &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boy College Straight &#187; Margaret Cho is a chaser? Tranny chasers in dyke communities « No &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Margaret Cho is a chaser?  Tranny chasers in dyke communities by Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*waves to Valerie*

One of the more acceptable versions of &#039;yum, trans guys&#039; that was psychological rather than physically based that I&#039;ve heard was about brave men being hot, and conscious, hard fought manhood being hot. 

Which is something I have to agree with generally...bravery and conviction are sexy.

Oliver</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*waves to Valerie*</p>
<p>One of the more acceptable versions of &#8216;yum, trans guys&#8217; that was psychological rather than physically based that I&#8217;ve heard was about brave men being hot, and conscious, hard fought manhood being hot. </p>
<p>Which is something I have to agree with generally&#8230;bravery and conviction are sexy.</p>
<p>Oliver</p>
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		<title>Comment on Margaret Cho is a chaser?  Tranny chasers in dyke communities by Valerie Keefe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valerie Keefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;At least the straight male tranny chasers who look at even the worst ’she-male’ porn out there will tell you (often quite defensively) that it doesn’t make them gay.&quot;

Good god damn, that&#039;s nice to have someone say. I get tired of people, especially trans people, saying that anyone who finds a pre/non-op trans woman hot is doing it because he likes the guys, which brings me to point two:

&quot;I am a lesbian. I am a tranny chaser. Transwomen are hot. I prefer the femme ones.&quot;

Oliver and Orion, you two make me feel very good about myself and desirable-in-the-right-way.

Sincerely, 

a lesbian struggling out of involuntary drag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;At least the straight male tranny chasers who look at even the worst ’she-male’ porn out there will tell you (often quite defensively) that it doesn’t make them gay.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good god damn, that&#8217;s nice to have someone say. I get tired of people, especially trans people, saying that anyone who finds a pre/non-op trans woman hot is doing it because he likes the guys, which brings me to point two:</p>
<p>&#8220;I am a lesbian. I am a tranny chaser. Transwomen are hot. I prefer the femme ones.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oliver and Orion, you two make me feel very good about myself and desirable-in-the-right-way.</p>
<p>Sincerely, </p>
<p>a lesbian struggling out of involuntary drag.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Isn&#8217;t Oppression Bad and Calling it Out Good? by saffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>saffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>White people in South Africa, especally Afrikaaners are unfairly called racist as a form of oppression and as a tactic to maintain power. It really does lead to job losses and even worse, violent encounters from blacks who feel entitled to take revenge, not because of any racism they actually experienced themselves, but because of the perception created by the constant demonisation of white afrikaaner people here. 

I give you this example to broaden your horizons so that you dont make statments such as the following:

&quot;I’m sorry, but being called transphobic, sexist, homophobic, racist, etc may hurt but it’s nothing like the impact that sexist, homophobic, racist, transphobic, etc behavior can have. The discomfort of being called out for oppressive behavior does not make up for the pain that behavior caused. Being called out for an ism is not about revenge, punishment, or public shaming&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>White people in South Africa, especally Afrikaaners are unfairly called racist as a form of oppression and as a tactic to maintain power. It really does lead to job losses and even worse, violent encounters from blacks who feel entitled to take revenge, not because of any racism they actually experienced themselves, but because of the perception created by the constant demonisation of white afrikaaner people here. </p>
<p>I give you this example to broaden your horizons so that you dont make statments such as the following:</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m sorry, but being called transphobic, sexist, homophobic, racist, etc may hurt but it’s nothing like the impact that sexist, homophobic, racist, transphobic, etc behavior can have. The discomfort of being called out for oppressive behavior does not make up for the pain that behavior caused. Being called out for an ism is not about revenge, punishment, or public shaming&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Margaret Cho is a chaser?  Tranny chasers in dyke communities by nodesignation</title>
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		<dc:creator>nodesignation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree that objectification has it&#039;s place.  When I&#039;m with the right partner, objectifying and/or being objectified can be fun.  The two parts that bother me with chasers is the occassional gender denial, like you mention, and the exotification.  From my perspective at least, if someone isn&#039;t exotifying trans people, denying their gender, or being a horrible creep, then I wouldn&#039;t even call them a chaser.

Straight male trannychasers, even while identifying as straight, still often engage in gender denial.  It&#039;s when they come onto you with lines like &quot;I think girls like you are even hotter than regular girls, it&#039;s because you have to put more effort into it,&quot; or &quot;All the regular girls have become feminists and don&#039;t put any effort into pleasing a man anymore, that&#039;s what I like about t-girls.&quot;

Not to mention that the creepy hetero men chasers don&#039;t always have the best of manners on their own.  I&#039;ve been propositioned in the street, non-consensually felt up in a bar, and asked out by strangers who got my email fron a news article -- and I&#039;m a dyke and avoid straight men as best I can (okay, I&#039;m a pandyke, but the guys I&#039;m into have to be queer and not clueless chasers).

Then the exotification, I&#039;ve been thinking of writing another post just focusing on that.  It&#039;s the creation of an exotic and novel image of what trans folks are supposed to be like, falling for that image, then projecting that image onto the trans folks you meet even when it doesn&#039;t fit.  I don&#039;t mind if folks are attracted to my bits, but if they love the idea of 8&quot; standing tall and exploding with a half gallon of cum, if they want to feel the hero by validating trans women&#039;s genders through sex with a straight man, then they&#039;re not really attracted to me, but their own deluded stereotypes of what I might be like, and as long as I&#039;m not going to fulfill that, it won&#039;t be fun for anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree that objectification has it&#8217;s place.  When I&#8217;m with the right partner, objectifying and/or being objectified can be fun.  The two parts that bother me with chasers is the occassional gender denial, like you mention, and the exotification.  From my perspective at least, if someone isn&#8217;t exotifying trans people, denying their gender, or being a horrible creep, then I wouldn&#8217;t even call them a chaser.</p>
<p>Straight male trannychasers, even while identifying as straight, still often engage in gender denial.  It&#8217;s when they come onto you with lines like &#8220;I think girls like you are even hotter than regular girls, it&#8217;s because you have to put more effort into it,&#8221; or &#8220;All the regular girls have become feminists and don&#8217;t put any effort into pleasing a man anymore, that&#8217;s what I like about t-girls.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not to mention that the creepy hetero men chasers don&#8217;t always have the best of manners on their own.  I&#8217;ve been propositioned in the street, non-consensually felt up in a bar, and asked out by strangers who got my email fron a news article &#8212; and I&#8217;m a dyke and avoid straight men as best I can (okay, I&#8217;m a pandyke, but the guys I&#8217;m into have to be queer and not clueless chasers).</p>
<p>Then the exotification, I&#8217;ve been thinking of writing another post just focusing on that.  It&#8217;s the creation of an exotic and novel image of what trans folks are supposed to be like, falling for that image, then projecting that image onto the trans folks you meet even when it doesn&#8217;t fit.  I don&#8217;t mind if folks are attracted to my bits, but if they love the idea of 8&#8243; standing tall and exploding with a half gallon of cum, if they want to feel the hero by validating trans women&#8217;s genders through sex with a straight man, then they&#8217;re not really attracted to me, but their own deluded stereotypes of what I might be like, and as long as I&#8217;m not going to fulfill that, it won&#8217;t be fun for anyone.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Margaret Cho is a chaser?  Tranny chasers in dyke communities by Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, a lot of people get upset about chasers on grounds of objectification but as a gay(ish) transman I&#039;d be absolutely over the moon if ftms became the latest &#039;gotta have it&#039; in the gay men&#039;s community.

If someone who actually wants to be with a man and is comfortable with admitting it feels like coming up to me and saying &#039;Dude, men with extra holes are hot, wanna fuck?&#039; then I&#039;m cool with that. Its...how the gay men&#039;s community works, to a certain extent, at least for short term hookups, and if trans became just another type along with twinks, bears, cut, uncut, skins etc etc

But when someone dyke who wouldn&#039;t touch an actual guy with a bargehole (an interestingly versatile sentence, I know) goes off on one about how &#039;butch+1&#039; is so fucking hot I want to scrape out her eyes with a spoon.

Its not the objectification, its the idea that this trait of being trans deserves more attention than a fairly shallow interest in novelty, or a liking for the physical acts that might be possible.

Because that&#039;s all it is to me. Being trans doesn&#039;t make me a decent feminist, a safer man to accept a ride home from, a perfect gentleman or a more sensitive lover. It just means that I&#039;m in the statistically unusual position of having a dick and a cunt, and if that&#039;s relevant to someone&#039;s interests then fabulous.

At least the straight male tranny chasers who look at even the  worst &#039;she-male&#039; porn out there will tell you (often quite defensively) that it doesn&#039;t make them gay. 

Yes, they still have the politeness and tact of a concussed boar at a frat party, but they&#039;re usually comfortable admitting that they like women, and that fancying transwomen is a part of that.

When did creepy hetero men start outranking right on, politically aware lesbians on taking transpeople&#039;s genders seriously? What the fuck is with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, a lot of people get upset about chasers on grounds of objectification but as a gay(ish) transman I&#8217;d be absolutely over the moon if ftms became the latest &#8216;gotta have it&#8217; in the gay men&#8217;s community.</p>
<p>If someone who actually wants to be with a man and is comfortable with admitting it feels like coming up to me and saying &#8216;Dude, men with extra holes are hot, wanna fuck?&#8217; then I&#8217;m cool with that. Its&#8230;how the gay men&#8217;s community works, to a certain extent, at least for short term hookups, and if trans became just another type along with twinks, bears, cut, uncut, skins etc etc</p>
<p>But when someone dyke who wouldn&#8217;t touch an actual guy with a bargehole (an interestingly versatile sentence, I know) goes off on one about how &#8216;butch+1&#8242; is so fucking hot I want to scrape out her eyes with a spoon.</p>
<p>Its not the objectification, its the idea that this trait of being trans deserves more attention than a fairly shallow interest in novelty, or a liking for the physical acts that might be possible.</p>
<p>Because that&#8217;s all it is to me. Being trans doesn&#8217;t make me a decent feminist, a safer man to accept a ride home from, a perfect gentleman or a more sensitive lover. It just means that I&#8217;m in the statistically unusual position of having a dick and a cunt, and if that&#8217;s relevant to someone&#8217;s interests then fabulous.</p>
<p>At least the straight male tranny chasers who look at even the  worst &#8217;she-male&#8217; porn out there will tell you (often quite defensively) that it doesn&#8217;t make them gay. </p>
<p>Yes, they still have the politeness and tact of a concussed boar at a frat party, but they&#8217;re usually comfortable admitting that they like women, and that fancying transwomen is a part of that.</p>
<p>When did creepy hetero men start outranking right on, politically aware lesbians on taking transpeople&#8217;s genders seriously? What the fuck is with that?</p>
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